tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC November 18, 2011 6:00pm-7:00pm PST
it's horrible. those people would put corn syrup on mt. rushmore if they could. >> mike papantonio, lizz winstead, great to have you with us on friday. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. rachel maddow, the show starts now on msnbc. good evening, ed, the fact you had lizz winstead on talking about corn syrup on mt. rushmore made the whole week for me. that was perfect. have a good weekend. >> you bet, you too. >> thanks to you at home for staying with us the next hour. newt gingrich made a career for the last few decades out of flirting with running for president. but when newt gingrich announced earlier this year he was going to stop just the flirting and finally make it legal, well, at least he was going to form an exploratory website about setting up an exploratory committee about maybe running for president, when newt gingrich did that earlier this year the website address he chose was, newtexplore2012.com. which is a hard thing to remember, and sort of an awkward construction even for a web address. why did he pick
newtexplore2012.com? maybe it's because explorenewt2012.com was already taken. for a long time, explorenewt2012.com was home to this long video of marbled newts eating stuff in a dish. whoever owns explorenewt2012.com doesn't just like salamanders, they've also been clearly sort of following the campaign all year long. when newt gingrich was really ostentatiously not campaigning hard and going to places like hawaii, explorenewt2012 redirected for a while to a website offering humpback whale retreats in hawaii. when it was revealed newt gingrich had a half million dollar rotating charge account at tiffany's, the jeweler, explore newt started redirecting to this nice tiffany's jewelry page. it's a heart. go to explorenewt2012.com today, it automatically redirects you
to this federal housing agency. freddie mac. as mr. gingrich has had his recent upward thrust in the polls, pretty much every day has started with a new revelation about how exactly newt gingrich makes all of his money. the freddie mac thing that is referenced here, by the redirected explorenewt2012, the freddie mac thing came to light last week when asked at the cnbc debate about having taken $300,000 from the federal housing agency freddie mac. mr. gingrich previously criticized freddie mac as being responsible for the financial meltdown. he described it as essentially a corrupting thing. he piously demanded politicians who got money from freddie mac should be forced to give that money back. so newt, himself, taking 300 grand from them was kind of a scandal. kind of a do as i say, not as i do hypocrisy moment. and also an interesting window into how he makes his money. since then, it's emerged that it wasn't actually $300,000 that newt gingrich got from freddie mac, it was more like $1.6
million. oh, no, wait, maybe more like $1.8 million. oh, no, wait, i guess we don't know. as of today the gingrich campaign says it's still counting. mr. gingrich has tried to explain this away by saying that freddie mac paid him that kind of money as a historian. a housing historian. housing historian is apparently a thing. it's a very well-paid thing. if we are taking newt gingrich's candidacy seriously enough now, that we are now looking into how he makes his money, the $1.6 million to be a housing historian for freddie mac, that's sort of as legitimate as it gets in newt gingrich's world. when you look at how newt gingrich makes his money, when you look at what his profession is, the $1.6 million for being a housing historian deal, that makes him look righteous compared to the rest of his portfolio. right before the 2010 midterm elections, you may remember the story about doctors all across the country getting faxes, faxes
like this one from the desk of speaker newt gingrich. the facts complete with fake real handwriting, a font made to look like handwriting, was sent to alert these doctors they had been personally selected by newt as one of his 2010 champions of medicine. the congratulatory letter was an invitation. "i'm having a party in washington at the historic ronald reagan building on election night, november 2nd, to honor you and a few others who have been selected to receive this prestigious honor." in addition to the banquet you got to go to, there was a framed certificate signed by newt gingrich, himself. you can see on the facts written there as if newt has just scrawled it in there jauntily in his own hand. this would look great in your office. one of the doctors who got the fax was a mother of a good reporter at "huffington post" named sam stein who followed up on the award letter from newt gingrich and discovered in order to attend the exclusive party
with newt gingrich in washington, all his mother would have had to do was send newt gingrich $5,000. now, mr. gingrich didn't just pull this scam with doctors, he was doing this sort of thing with all sorts of businesses. like, for example, the strip club in dallas to which he tried to bestow an entrepreneur of the year award. if they'd give him thousands of dollars as well. that scam included a commemorative gavel that was fake signed by newt gingrich. this is how newt gingrich has been making his money. this is the caching that makes newt gingrich go. he's a nigerian prince e-mail send me your bank accounts guy. he does direct mail, suckerless, bottom fielding, prey on the gullible financial scams. the key to them, the thing that makes it work for newt gingrich is it's all based on the glamour and prestige of newt gingrich.
prestige of the speakership of the house. that's what they're selling. it's the newt gingrich signed gavel and newt gingrich framed certificate and the party where you're allowed or guaranteed you'll be allowed to be near newt gingrich. it is the letter you get from the desk of speaker newt gingrich. and today we have learned that it's not just small businesses and doctors who've been suckered into the whole access to newt fund-raising spam scam. it's big companies, too. today "washington post" reports that the newt gingrich's health care think tank, the center for health transformation, collected $37 million over the past 8 years from some of the biggest health care companies in the country. companies like astrazeneca and blue cross blue shield and ge health care and wellpoint. all of these companies would pay newt's for h-profit health care thing, $200,000 a year in membership dues. what would they get for their membership dues money? in part, they'd get special access to the former house
speaker. the immediate scandal of the health care thing this week for newt gingrich is that his scammy access to newt for-profit health care organization endorsed the individual mandate in health insurance. they had a whole plan on their website titled "insure all americans." that's awkward in light of comments like this by mr. gingrich while campaigning earlier this year. >> i'm completely opposed to the obama-care mandate on individuals. i fought it for 2 1/2 years. >> actually, no, at your center for health transformation, your scammy for-profit health reform thing, you specifically endorsed the mandate on individuals. as the "washington post" notes today, the, quote, gingrich health center support for such a mandate appears to have disappeared from the center's website as of thursday. that's the immediate kind of short-term scandal. just like newt gingrich said taking money from freddie mac was a bad thing, though he took a boat load of money from
freddie mac, here he says he was opposed to the individual mandate though his organization quite dizzily promoted it for a long time. yes, you can find all sorts of short-term, small-bore scandals like that in newt gingrich world. but just do yourself a favor. particularly if anybody from the -- my colleagues in the beltway media right now, just take a step back and look at the bigger picture here. stumbling on this newt gingrich $37 million from the health insurance industry story, stumbling on that and deciding the scandal here is he's been two faced about the individual mandate is like waking up to a home invasion and being outraged that the attacker is tracking mud on your carpet. you're missing the bigger point. it's a home invasion. newt gingrich took contradictory positions on the health insurance mandate, but he also made $37 million selling companies access to himself. the center for health transformation put what companies could get for their money in print. and its materials for those company. what were they offering?
quote, access to newt gingrich. and quote, direct news interaction. we found out today in the "wall street journal" he was paid by the u.s. chamber of commerce. what did gingrich do for his $120,000 a year salary from the u.s. chamber of commerce? according to the "wall street journal," mr. gingrich's assignment with the chamber of commerce was to attend dinner. attend dinner or lunch with chamber officials every few months. $120,000 a year for access to newt. and for the honor of feeding near him. and so, yes, the chamber of commerce supported president obama's stimulus package and newt gingrich is campaigning against the stimulus so there's two facedness there. his health reform group was pro individual mandate. now he says he's always been against the individual mandate. you can find policy scandals. you can find policy scandals and hints about newt gingrich's shall re say transactional
relationship with policy everywhere you look in his career. look around. if you get hung up on the little awkwardnesses, you miss the greater and vastly more entertaining story which is newt gingrich, caching, is a scam. newt gingrich's profession since he got kicked out of congress under a cloud of ethics charges related to fund-raising, his full-time profession has been selling access to himself as someone who is influential because of his time as a public servant. he's been marketing the speakership of the house for his own private financial gain. to anybody who will pay him. anybody he can scam money out of. even if he has to do it by a fax with fake handwriting. for decades he's been doing this so he's a zillion their. newt gingrich wants you to think of him as a political prophet. he means it in the homonym sense. make him write it down. this is what it's been for him.
here's the relevant context for understanding the presidential candidacy of newt gingrich. newt gingrich is getting taken seriously as a presidential candidate. he's having his moment. a poll out in new hampshire shows newt gingrich in a statistical tie with mitt romney in new hampshire. new hampshire is supposed to be the one place mitt romney has absolutely locked up. this poll may be an outlier, but in this poll, newt gingrich gained 21 points just in the last month. so if you're a candidate, how do you deal with something like that, a surge like that? how is newt gingrich marking this huge development in his presidential campaign prospects? he is in the northeast tonight, but he's not in new hampshire. he's at harvard university tonight screening his new dvd, "a city upon a hill." to be followed immediately afterwards by a newt gingrich book signing. step right up, folks. step right up. ca-ching. joining us now, david corn, washington bureau chief for mother jones and msnbc political analyst. mr. corn, thank you for being here. >> thank you, rachel. i don't know what i can say after all that.
>> tell me if there's some secret parallel universe in which massachusetts is the right place for a republican presidential contender to be in november before an election. >> particularly harvard square, you know. he's really going to the belly of the beast and taking on the elites that would plot against middle america. that's all i can gather up there. i mean, i have to say, listening to you, everything you said i agree with, but i do think the flip-flop on the individual mandate is significant only because it's symbolic of basically his whole career. not -- i mean, before the for-profit stuff, i'm talking about the 20, 30 years he spent in public life as a politician. which was always to be as situational as possible. he could come up there with the most slippery denials and the most fierce attacks. it didn't matter if they contradicted one another. i take a little pride in being the first one this week to point out that the center for health
transformation, a for-profit think tank, i don't think there are any other for-profit think tanks out there had this plan on their site calling for an individual mandate. and after my story came out as the "post" reports today, poof, it's gone. it's no longer there. but then today i found something else in that same -- on the website for the same group. in june 2007, he wrote an op-ped, a column for his own website. maybe they paid him for it. who knows. >> i'm sure they did. >> that said exactly the same thing but went further. it said congress should pass a law mandating that people get health care insurance. this is the exact opposite to the "t" of his claim that obama wants to take away your freedom by making individual mandates. so, but this, you know, this is, as i say, representative of everything he said in public life and public policy from the get-go. he can just flip, turn on a
dime. you saw that with paul ryan, you saw that with libya, you saw that with climate change. i'm just talking about this year. not the past 33 years. >> talk, i think, setting him up as a person who has a flip-flop problem, that is the reputation mitt romney has in politics and has not been the reputation newt gingrich has largely because he insists so loudly he is so principled i think sometimes his insistence on that blocks out anybody documenting anything to the contrary or believing it even when it is documented. i wonder if that's even going to be a liability for him. has flip-flopping been a liability for mitt romney up until this point? >> i think he's not a flip-flopper. i think he's a gyrator. he never stops spinning and twirling. he plays mu s musical chairs wi himself and gets caught in lies. mitt romney flip-flops, goes from one position to the next and comes up with bogus justifications for it. but he sort of lands where he
lands. newt gingrich can't get his story straight. it's always, always spinning it. we saw that, whether it's about policy, or whether it's about freddie mac. you know, i'm a historian, no, i give strategic advice, i got $1,000, no, i got $1.6 million. i didn't lobby, but i warned them not to do what they're doing, but, no, "bloomberg" reports i didn't warn them. you saw the same thing in tiffany's. any time he's met by a challenge, whether about his personal behavior, his political behavior, his professional behavior, he just becomes a whirling dervish of whatever he thinks will get him through that moment. it's exhausting watching him. i don't know what it would be like to live that life. and i think this is all becoming a piece. i think, you know, when even republican primary voters, they want to feel that the person they're voting for is to some degree real. and newt gingrich is just -- i
think all this is piling up. it takes a while to hit. you see this with herman cain. when those first charges came out about inappropriate behavior. you know, his poll numbers were still good. he got a lot of money. but, you know, he started eventually dropping in the polls. and, you know, some people call it cratering. i think newt gingrich might have hit his high point and i don't think he can sustain this. >> while he's up, he is definitely going to do as many activities -- as many campaign events as possible, screen and dvd and do a book signing right after. he's hitting a doubleheader tonight in washington. >> the most important thing tonight, rachel, you get a discount if you buy both. >> david corn, washington bureau chief for mother jones. ca-ching. and msnbc political analyst. thank you. >> thank you, rachel. >> thanks. have you heard what the fox news channel angle is on the man who is charged with the attempted assassination of president obama? have you seen what fox news is saying about this? that's coming up. ♪ when the things that you need ♪
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population there. the reason the constitution says we have to count ourselves every ten years is to determine how to distribute seats in congress. so while a little state like vermont only has enough population to give them one seat in the house of representatives for the whole state, texas right now has 32 people in congress. and because texas' population was found to have grown so much in the last census, texas is now slated to get four more congressional seats, thank you very much. thank you specifically texas hispanic influx. even though hispanics in texas tend to tilt strongly democratic, right now texas state government is dominated by republicans and the heavily republican-dominated texas legislature has decided that even though the state got its four new congressional seats, mostly because of hispanic population growth, the republicans in the legislature decided that they would draw their four new congressional districts in a way that would almost assuredly send four more republicans to washington, d.c. last week, a three-judge panel
of a federal court in d.c., two of the three judges incidentally, were george w. bush appointees. that three-judge panel ruled that the texas legislature used an improper standard to determine which districts afford minority voters the ability to elect their preferred candidates of choice. this is not the first time that redistricting has been an issue in texas. after all, partisan redistricting in texas is part of what brought us this timeless mugshot -- hi -- of former republican house majority leader tom delay. delighted to be here. after the courts essentially said they'd take over the process in texas because the texas legislature couldn't -- the "star telegram" said texas needs an independent nonpartisan body to do its work, to draw its congressional lines. just take politics out of. it let it be a technocratic thing. bring objectivity into the process. you know who already has that? arizona. arizona in its wisdom formed
itself an independent redistricting commission a decade ago to avoid texas-style partisan embarrassment -- hi, tom -- on the subject. earlier this month as their independent commission was finishing up their work on a draft for a congressional district map for 2012, arizona's republican governor jan brewer decided she was going to move the head of the commission. so much for independent, right? governor brewer accused the commission chair of gross misconduct and with a two-thirds vote, a party-line vote from the republican majority in the arizona state senator, governor brewer removed the chair of the commission from her post. though this is an independent commission that's supposed to work outside partisan pliolitic the governor has a right to move the commissioner but only if the commissioner neglected his or her duties or found guilty of gross misconduct. now, had the commissioner done something that could be construed as gross misconduct, what had she done that was so
awful? the governor has had a hard time trying to explain that. >> what did colleen do that was inappropriate, colleen math this? >> well, she acted inappropriately. >> in what way? >> she was doing -- well, it was very, pretty much obvious that she was in communications and doing things not in the public and the people of arizona deserve that. >> it keeps going, actually. go on. >> i'm trying to understand what she did, though. what are you accusing her of having done? >> well, she wasn't operating in the proper manner according to the law. >> what did she do? what didn't she do? for the law, for example, says she has to do something egregious, terribly egregious. what was the egregious thing she did? >> i wish i had my letter here so i could read from it. >> it was such gross misconduct, i can't remember it without my letter. where's my my letter? governor brewer had a hard time convincing allen combs there of
what exactly this commissioner had done that was so egregious, so awful she had to be forcibly removed from office. even though it's supposedly an independent commission. now governor brewer has also failed to convince the arizona supreme court. the commission chair, whose name is colleen mathis, fought her removal in court. yesterday the supreme court in arizona ruled the governor had, in fact, failed to show this commissioner was guilty of any gross misconduct. they ordered miss mathis be reinstated to her position. >> this court doesn't live in a cocoon. it lives in the real world. it must not ignore the motivations by the partisan political conduct in question. without an order of this court reinstating colleen mathis to her lawful, rightful position, the independent redistricting commission becomes a joke. >> joining us now is linda mcnulty, one of the five commissioners on arizona's independent redistricting commission. miss mcnulty, thanks for your
time tonight. nice to have you here. >> thank you very much for having me. >> let me ask you first if i accurately summarized the situation that brought us here today. is that a fair description aside from the pot shots at tom delay, of what's brought us to this point in arizona? >> it was a very good summary, yes. >> what's your reaction to today's ruling from the arizona supreme court? this is a clash of the titans here between the independents of the commission you serve on and the governor's very strong will apparently to exert pressure over you. >> it is, indeed. i think the ruling yesterday was a major win for the citizens of arizona who, as you explained, voted overwhelmingly to create this commission in the year 2000. and the purpose of the commission was to remove the process of drawing the state legislative and congressional districts from self-interested politicians and put it in the hands of a group of balanced citizen volunteers who would draw fair and competitive
districts for the state. what the court struck down yesterday was a blatant attempt by the governor and incumbent politicians to tell this commission to draw the maps to their liking or else. the commission ruled yesterday that the -- the court ruled yesterday that the commission is and in fact will remain independent from influence by the governor and the legislature. >> the commission is made up of the independent chair who's the person who has been reinstated by the court as of today two democrats and two republicans. you're one of the democrats who serves on the board. when the governor went after the commission, she did get the senate to remove the independent chair of the board. she also tried to remove you and the other democratic commissioner from the board. do you fear that she will try to do that again, that she will come back after either you alone or all three of you again? >> well, the governor has made it clear that she's keeping her options open. i think that the governor and
the legislature have been so out of step with the citizens of arizona whose response to this abuse of power has been an overwhelming condemnation, that it's possible that they will continue to ignore the will of the voters and the citizens, but we want to get back to work. we have our chairman back. colleen mathis is a wok of the highest integrity. her reputation was vindicated yesterday by the supreme court. and we -- we want to get together again and begin to finish the work that we started which is to draw a fair and competitive districts for the state. >> linda mcnulty, one of the commissioners on arizona's independent redistricting commission. i know this has been a trying and contentious time, but thanks for your service to your state and thanks for making time to talk to us tonight. i really appreciate your time. >> thank you very much. >> all right. the bat signal went up for real last night right here in
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together and decided to project an image of the mural back on to the side of the building. that contains the labor department. they put the mural back up. watch this. >> what are you doing? >> putting the mural back up. >> putting the mural back up. >> i hope not. >> uh-oh. >> because if you do, we'll have apd -- >> they're putting the mural back up. this is sort of a thing now. you may remember amid the protest against scott walker's union stripping law in wisconsin, we got this photo from protesters in wisconsin who told us in addition to this projection, they had also projected a 40-foot dollar sign on to the side of the wisconsin statehouse. then there was the anti-koch brothers protest outside lincoln center here in new york. where a theater has been named after david koch. protesters' goal there was to re-brand the koch brothers, an effort that included a
multimedia program projected on to the side of the building during the protest. over the last couple months protesters make use of projectors in lower manhattan as the occupy movement. the projection as protests move, hasn't really been done like it was done last night. it's in part because this was technically an amazing thing to have been carried off. all right. here if your visualization sake, here's manhattan, this is the hudson river on the left side there. over there on the other side, the east, that's the east river. here is the brooklyn bridge. the same place where there were 700 arrests made when occupy wall street protesters marched on the brooklyn bridge early last month. that march and protests happened on a weekend during the day. the new occupy wall street action was planned to be on a weeknight this week during rush hour after the time changed so it was going to be in the dark. they announced it in advance. everybody knew a ton of people were going to be protesting on the brooklyn bridge.
last night. right here, going over the brooklyn bridge, there is a perfect site line, not only for the protesters, but everybody covering the protesters, for the scene everybody was gearing up for on the brooklyn bridge. right on that line of the bridge is what everybody refers to as the verizon building. now, it's not actually verizon's headquarters, as the folks at the "village voice" pointed out today, verizon just has couple floors there and their name on the top of the building is essentially a giant ad for that company. it's a big, flat building that has a big flat surface on it facing the rough and a big, flat surface that doesn't have windows or sharp planes that might obscure the purpose of the best place in the world to show off the nonmarring, nonintrusive but oddly effective and evocative visual arts/protest technique. the projection. you need three things to pull
this off. you need a really, really, really bright projector, you need a place to project from and you need chutzpa to try to do this. the guy who pulled this off is going to be joining us in just a second. we were able to track them down thanks to the geniuses at boingboing.net. they were able to pull this off and this is what it looked like. this is a series of images. see that projected on to the side of the verizon building last night. it was a whole program of projected images, almost like a visual speech. here's part of the message. to we have this? mike check. mike check. look around. you are a part of a global uprising. we are a cry from the heart of the world, it goes on. we are unstoppable. another world is possible. happy birthday, occupy movement. 99%.
here's what it looked like on the ground from the brooklyn bridge where the occupy wall street protesters were marching. >> we are the 99%! we are the 99%! >> they are psyched. joining us now is mark reed, who organized the projections on the verizon building last night. mr. reed, congratulations. thanks for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> when you look at that footage of it, obviously you saw it live when it was happening. when you see it as sort of, i guess a document of what happened in new york, how does it feel? >> it's a little surreal. it was -- i knew it would be a really powerful projection, and i hoped that it would have that effect on the crowd. and we were able to hear the crowd, actually, from the window where we were projecting. i didn't expect that at all. we could hear them chanting along to what we were projecting in this kind of interactive dance we were doing. it was really beautiful. >> how long ago did you have this idea? how much planning time did this
ta take? >> about three weeks. >> okay. >> it wasn't technically my ideas. we were having an action coordination meeting to discuss the 17th which had been called as a day of action for labor, 17 bridges in 17 cities, to call attention to the crumbling infrastructure and the people that are out of work. like we have these people out of work, we have a crumbling infrastructure, let's make jobs and make bridges better. that was the idea. and then occupy happened and it became, like, a birthday party. exactly on the two-month anniversary of the birth of the occupy movement. and we wanted to do something a little more spectacular. and we were -- the first idea we were talking about were these lights we handed out to the crowd, 10,000 l.e.d. lights to go around to create a river of light around the city hall and up on the pedestrian walkway on the brooklyn bridge. we were kind of done with that discussion and there's a guy, hero, the name he goes by is hero, he's been involved from the beginning with occupy and he was like, i didn't get a chance to get my idea.
i was sitting next to him. i said, what's your idea? he said, we need a bat signal with 99%. i thought about it for a half a second and knew i could pull it off. i had done gorilla projections before and knew people who had and said, we're doing it. >> how did you figure out where you should be projecting from? how did you find a place? >> well, i mean, there's this, you know, gigantic gray monolith as a perfect projection screen a lot of us have seen over the years and i've probably had the same idea. there are these -- city housing actually. it's, you know, the irony of it is kind of incredible. in the shadow of this gray corporate monolith is city housing projects. people, working class, working poor. it's the same thing these days. working class, working poor. they're, like, 17 tall story buildings and right up against -- the one we were in is 130 feet from the face of the
building. literally in its shadow. and, you know, i knew we needed a secure place so we -- i needed an apartment. i needed someone in that building to open their home and so i went into the building and put up signs, you know, like, could you rint us your apartment for a few hours on thursday november 17th for $250? and i got a few phone calls. most of which didn't make a whole lot of sense. >> okay. >> and then i got a call from denise vega who i went and visited. actually didn't think she had the window that we needed. she talked about her views of the brooklyn bridge and i didn't think it was going to be right. but lo and behold, it was there. in her bedroom she had a perfect view of that face and, you know, it was on. i told her immediately what i was doing. i didn't say that in the sign, but i said it was an art and film project. when i met her, i said i'm with occupy wall street. have you heard about us? she said, of course, you guys are awesome. she knew all about the movement. and she was excited about the idea of doing something in her apartment. and so we shook hands and the last thing i said to her was,
she said to me, was, like, let's do this thing. that was really exciting. >> so it was 250 bucks and it was probably a long night in there setting up and -- >> yeah, well, the thing was -- it was about 20 minutes setting up. the thing with denise was, on tuesday, on tuesday which is the day after the eviction, which happened, like, early tuesday morning. >> the zuccotti park eviction, right? >> i tried to meet denise to give her her money, half in advance and half after. this was coming up on thursday. the finance working group from occupy wall street was in disarray. no one was around. i couldn't get her the money. i was playing phone tag with her and talked to her at 9:00. the first thing she said to me was, you know, i can't take money for this. this is -- >> oh, wow. >> this is for the people. i can't take any money. >> mark, while i have been talking to you we've been trying to reach denise on the phone. i'm told we have denise on the phone. denise, are you there on the phone? >> yes, hi. >> hi. how are you? >> okay.
and you? >> i'm great. i'm here with mark who you did the projection project with last night. and i'm just wondering if you could tell us why you decided to do this with him. why you decided to let him use the apartment and participate in this. >> this all happened as a token to my sister. that's her apartment and it so happens we were together. she was saying, oh, you got to do it, you got to like do this together, we sbgot to do this together. i said, what do you want me to do? she said, listen, there's a project that's about to take place. give him a call, mark read. that's exactly what i said. i said, oh, that sounds like fun, let's see what we can do here, let's do this. i called mark read and we started talking. money was offered, and i refused the money. it's not about the money. i am working, but, you know, we got to be together, work together. >> how do you -- >> stand as one. >> how do you feel about the
overall -- i mean, how do you feel about the messages that were projected and the overall occupy wall street movement? >> it's great. i'm so happy it's going on, and i didn't even know it was going to be this long. it's crazy. but, you know, i'm showing my daughters, i do have two daughters. i'm showing them what the world's about right now. we got to stand up for what's right. >> denise vega, thank you for calling in tonight. we had a hard time tracking you down. i'm glad we found you. thanks for calling us. thanks for being part of this. >> thank you. have a good night. good night, mark read. >> mark read, occupy wall streeter who organized this, and who must have a really amazing projector. >> yeah. >> thank you for coming in and explaining this how you did this, this made a big impact on a lot of people. appreciate it. >> okay. thank you. all right. how do we know occupy wall street is working? in part, because big money interests are plotting overtime to try to take it down. there's a big scoop that's going to break about this tomorrow
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hernandez. >> yesterday they described him as the "occupy shooter." is there any connection between this kid arrested for shooting at the white house, and the 99% protests? no, he did not. the occupy protest is located vaguely near the white house but beyond that, no, nothing. "the washington post" report willing wednesday afternoon that investigators fond no connection between him and the occupy d.c. protest. that's no as in none as in protesting on behalf of the 99% is not the same thing as being a crazy guy with a gun who thinks he's jesus, except on fox news of course. they are the same things. we've seen a lot of attempts on the right to cast occupy wall street as evil and unamerican. glen beck says occupy wall street will drag you from your home and kill you. karl rove's group has been running ads against occupy wall street. we've seen a lot of this on the
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